Talk: Burdock/Archive 1

User:Burdock/Title

Hey there

Glad you are involved in helping clean up the articles. And for future reference, rather than typing your name to sign, it's much easier and much more convenient if you type four tildes (~~~~). It will display in the same fashion as my signature at the end of this paragraph. Thanks! Wildyoda 19:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, no policy and you can certainly do it that way. Four just makes your name clickable, which in turn makes it easier to get to your talk page to respond. :) Wildyoda 22:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Names

Hi there, we should not keep them as their English Manga names because they are just as fake as the English Anime names. Plus when we use the movie names we have to choose to use the English dub or the Japanese dub as the Manga doesn't cover the movies and it gets very awkward. Recoome

Administrator

To become an admin, you have to be voted the power by a consensus of active users. The problem is I think you have to have a certain number of users before the votes are even valid. I'll look into it around wikia, I've read it before. I'm interested in being an admin myself for exactly what you are talking about, and particularly deleting worthless stuff. I'll get back to you with more details on how many people we have to have to hold a valid election. Wildyoda 22:52, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Response here. Wildyoda 13:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Cui/Kiwi

In the FUNimation dub its Cui but in the others its Kiwi so use Kiwi Master gogeta 16:10, 8 march 2007 (GMT)

Fusion Reborn page

Hi, hope you don't mind me erasing the entire summary on that page as I'll work on it soon. =) KayChase

In response to the message you left me at Wikipedia

Sorry, I don't have enough knowledge of Wiki-markup to help you create the same template as the one on Wikipedia. Maybe you can ask someone else who knows a bit more about templates, like User:1ne himself. Cheers! ~~Eugene2x ^{Sign here} ☺ ~~ from Wikipedia / 208.127.113.46 03:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The reason the template isn't working here is that it doesn't really follow the normal sort of thing that CSS is designed to do; it tries to cause the new title to be superimposed above the old one. One reason that it isn't going to work is that it relies on some Wikipedia-specific coding (the div.topicon trick) to try and prevent it breaking in skins other than Monobook; this won't work here, because the site-wide CSS here is different. I've edited it to a customized version specifically for this wikia; use it as {{User:Burdock/Title|Burdock}}. Hope that helps! Ais523 07:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Talkheader

I fixed the template [1]. This happened because the template on Wikipedia used a system-wide style definition ("messagebox standard-talk"), which is defined in wikipedia:MediaWiki:Common.css. So I just copied the definition from that page to the template here, and you can do a similar thing with any other template from Wikipedia. Also, administrators can edit the MediaWiki:Common.css here on this wiki if you want to use these definitions; I don't know how that works here on Wikia. 64.89.151.74 18:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Template

You asked Angela to create a template, If you could explain what it does I can probably create it. I worked on nearly every shared template for the Wikia Anime Project. If you really need any help in making things around here feel free to ask me, the project is working on expanding across most of the Wikia wiki which are involved in Anime (Manga, Comics, and Cartoons will be brought in, in the future to) so as the founder of the project I'd be happy to help out any Anime related wiki around. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 1, 2007 _@ 21:40 ^(UTC)

On another note, I notice you're doing a lot of work on the repetitive task of adding {{Talkheader}} to the top of basically every talk page on the wiki. It's not something I'd usually ask anyone to do, so if the community is up for it I can request bot flags for the bot I handle to be extended here and I can setup a bot to do all that work on it's own for you. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 1, 2007 _@ 21:54 ^(UTC)

Creating a template like that doesn't actually have a point on a Wikia wiki. It won't make things start to work right. In the case of templates using that template you should just delete the text including that template and come up with your own categorization. That's only used on Wikimedia projects to deal with the extreme size and hard to maintain standards. Because Wikia wikis are smaller things like that aren't needed. If there's a type of template you're wanting you can ask me to come up with one, there are plenty at Anime:Category:Templates. Also, any Wikia which joins the WAP automatically gets the templates in Anime:Category:Templates/shared shared to the wiki. Wikipedia also uses some things which are different from here. Many things don't work here which work on Wikipedia because they have extra css classes to do things, and things such as tidy are enabled there. As for the bots, I basically use the Pywikipediabot framework. With a bot it basically means there's a user account which is controlled by a script which is used to run a repetitive task. Examples of simple tasks that can be done easily by bot are; adding categories to a number of pages or replacing some type of content on a large number of pages. For example, if the entire wiki had the mistake of Gouhan instead of Gohan then a simple use of the replace.py bot could replace every Gouhan with a Gohan across the entire wiki. For that talk thing, all I'd do is make a simple script which would run through all the pages in the main namespace and then on the talkpage for each one it would check if that text had already been added, if it's not there the bot could then save the page with that template tag at the top. As for the administrator thing, there's no normal board for choosing admins, really people become an admin when they found or adopt a Wikia or when another admin promotes them. I'll make a forum topic on the subject to see if anyone is against the idea of me being made Sysop, and if no-one is against it then It's a simple case of me asking the community staff for the tags. Talk of the WAP can finish after that. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 3, 2007 _@ 05:36 ^(UTC)

Sysop, Bureaucrat, and Rollback are 3 MediaWiki tags which can be applied to a user. Sysop is usually associated with an admin and Bureaucrat with a higher admin such as a founder or head. The basic breakdown is that the Sysop tag allows a user to use various actions such as Delete, Protect, Undelete, Block, editing stuff in the MediaWiki: namespace to change the look of the wiki, and the Rollback function. Bureaucrat allows a User to give someone the Sysop tag and additionally if wanted the Bureaucrat tag to. They can also give and remove the Rollback flag from someone which allows someone to use Rollback without needing to have administrator powers. There's no test, per-say for becoming an admin, it's merely a state of the community's feelings. Handling Sysop powers is a little different than doing normal editing, there's a strong responsibility to not going to far with them. If you want, if I'm given the tags then I can watch your editing and interaction with the community to see how you might handle the powers. More than one admin isn't really needed right away, especially with how active I am, the wiki will do fine with just me doing whatever admin tasks the community needs for awhile. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 3, 2007 _@ 06:15 ^(UTC)

It would be helpful if you could get users to vist Promoting an Administrator and Joining the WAP. If we're lucky things will resolve here around the same time as in the MMKB and I can request things in bulk to save the Community Staff and Tech Team some extra work. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 6, 2007 _@ 03:52 ^(UTC)

Ok, you talk to Wildyoda and I'll notify the other users because the forums aren't very viewed right now. I also added a point form summary to the topic to clear things up. p.s. It's alright to click the local link beside my talk link. Even though the current Wikia wide Message Notification system which tells you if you have a new message on a different Wikia is down, I still watch over the Recentchanges here like I do with the other wiki, so I'll catch your messages just as fine. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 7, 2007 _@ 05:46 ^(UTC)

Sorry burdock, I can't actually do anything until at least 2 or 3 of the most active contributors give an ok at Promoting an Administrator, Joining the WAP would help to. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 11, 2007 _@ 04:10 ^(UTC)

Leaving feedback at Promoting an Administrator and Joining the WAP is the only way of me proving to the Central Wikia Staff that the DB Wiki is alright with me being given Sysop and Bureaucrat status, and similarly stating if the DB Wiki is ok with the AnimeBot and the WAP. Without that they won't grant a request to promote me. WikiProject Dragon Ball has nothing to do with the Dragon Ball Wiki. Wikia and Wikimedia are two completely different companies. Wikipedia has no say in what goes on here. WikiProject Anime and manga also has no say in what goes on in the Wikia Anime Project. WikiProject Anime and manga and WikiProject Dragon Ball are Wikipedia projects, and the Wikia Anime Project is a Wikia project headed by me, and the Dragon Ball Wiki is a Wikia wiki. The WAP only covers Wikia wiki, and the WikiProject Anime and manga has no control past Wikipedia. They're basically two projects within two different encyclopedia areas which have a few similar goals, but ultimately the methods used and the extent to how much they want to do about something is completely different. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 11, 2007 _@ 05:32 ^(UTC)

I gave a bit of a reply to what you said on my talkpage at Joining the WAP instead so that the community can see it to. ~Dantman-local^{(Dantman|local)} Apr 11, 2007 _@ 06:09 ^(UTC)

The reason I removed the Bold was because I added more to that text. And it went over what I'd call a limit. There's a limit to how much content you can bold before it starts making the page and content real, real ugly and distracting in a negative way. So I had to pull off the bold. ~Dantman^(talk) Apr 24, 2007 _@ 00:26 ^(UTC)

Dragon Ball

Yup, I used to watch the series. Though I don't know which Dub it was. I finished the entire Dragon Ball Z series on TV, Watched a portion of Dragon Ball on TV, and watched Dragon Ball GT both a bit on the TV, and I ended up watching some subs to because of how YTV wasen't progressing the series very far. Actually, I think I finished the Dragon Ball GT series. And I've seen the various movies which were also played (Or were those OVA's?). I've just been using Naruto as an example because the best and most active wiki in the WGEP currently is the Narutopedia. Though it's a shame dubs do the same thing they do to Mega Man as they do to Dragon Ball. Mega Man's original name was Rockman, which ended up with the pun of Rockman & Roll (pun: Rock&Roll). And in Dragon Ball there was the change of Bra to Bulla ruining the fact that her family's names have something to do with undergarments. ~Dantman^(talk) Apr 26, 2007 _@ 05:03 ^(UTC)

Angela isn't actually part of the Dragon Ball Wiki community, she's part of the Community Staff, actually... She's the co-founder of Wikia itself. There's no more real feedback needed on adding an administrator, Angela has already added the Bureaucrat and Sysop flags to me, and given AnimeBot the bot flag to hide it's edits. Angela is actually the staff member who usually ends up helping me out with these things. Although, for some reason theres a bug in the system and while it does state that I have those flags, unfortunately the software isn't letting me do any of the admin only actions, so Angela will probably working on getting someone to find out how to fix that. Ya, I could make a higherarchy system based off of Saiyans if we can come up with a good match of Higherarchy to tags. ~Dantman^(talk) Apr 27, 2007 _@ 19:02 ^(UTC)

Yup, the tags are working now. I can do all the normal actions of Deleting, Protecting, etc... I'm going to be looking for some Browser Icons at the moment, and probably some other things. Actually, the truth is if the Dragon Ball Wiki joined the WGEP the Userboxes here would be replaced with better more customized, shared Userboxes. ~Dantman^(talk) Apr 29, 2007 _@ 09:03 ^(UTC)

Reponse to Wikipedia comment

I just want you to know that I apologize if I come off sometimes as careless because I don't respond when you attempt to talk to me. I don't come here very often, I only come here about once or twice a week. I've been frequenting it for the past few days more often because SOMEONE (hence: YOU) has actually started talking to me. I just did some edits on the Goku and Gohan articles here. Someone decided to add SIX pics for one section. ????? The articles still need a lot of work. I also apologize if you already read my messege at Wikipedia of the same context as this one. I also want you to know that I was not blowing you off intentionally, I'm sorry if it came off that way. Tootles! Talk to me whenever you want! Ok?! --MajinSuperVegeta 18:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply

Yeah I agree, I'll write the names that way from now on. Yeah about me being a sock puppet on normal wikipedia, basically it involved a corrupt member who was friends with an admin. lol. I can explain it to you but it is 11.50pm over here and a bit tired to write too much now. Thanks Recoome

Comment?

Burdock, what's the point of the null comment  on the redirect pages? ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 00:09 ^(UTC)

Yes, that is so the page is unable to be moved there, or so I read. When I was looking up Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 2 on Wikipedia, I saw this in the page history. Apparently, an admin. did that and said so, and that admin. just so happens to proctor the Dragon Ball WikiProject on Wikipedia. Burdock

I find it easier to revert a move than what results when you stop a move from working. Cui and Kiwi had 2 different page histories. Which was most likely a result of either a Cut & Paste move (When someone cuts some text from one page and pasts it into another instead of using Move; This is a GFDL violation because it hides people's contributions) or someone trying to change it to Cui because they wanted it that way, but couldn't move the page there using the move feature, and instead they cut the page and made the other a redirect. As a result of that I had to do a page history merge to fix it. It takes longer to merge 2 histories than it does to revert a move. In fact, revert buttons show up in the move log, so it's even easier. Not to mention that any member can revert a move, while only a Administrator can merge page histories.

P.S: It would be good if anyone told me if they came across any situations where redirects had a page history which should belong to the article that they are redirecting to so that I can merge the histories. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 00:34 ^(UTC)

Ah, I see. So do you find the  to be useless in these matters? If so, I'll discontinue its use. I'll notify you also if there are more double histories like that, Ok? Burdock

It's ok on Wikipedia because they have dozens of administrators who can just keep dealing with that. And also Cut & Paste is caught easier by the members there. But here, where most of what we have is normal users, it's best to do without. Ya, just use the simple redirect form without comment. (I'll actually setup the style of Edittools box used in the WGEP here so it'll make inserting that kind of thing easier). I'll send a bot out to make them normal soon. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 00:49 ^(UTC)

Done, 60 redirect pages changed. If you want to see the edits made you can go to the recent changes and hit "Show bots". ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 01:10 ^(UTC)

Those bots are astounding. Alas, I've always been impressed by them. Hey, can the bots do this: provide a fair use rationale (utilise this very one) and a correct fair use template for ALL the existing Dragon Ball images on this wiki, including the ones which I've already provided a template and a fair use rationale for? It'll sure save me the work of having to do it all. But, is it even possible? Burdock

Bots are good at repetitive tasks and can be programmed to do such. But that task requires some human common sense which is something which can't properly be programmed into a bot. Though perhaps someone with MWB would find making such an edit easier. Though, what the bot can do is if the DB Wiki ever merged with the WGEP it could convert that {{film-screenshot}}\n{{fairuse}} form into the {{Fair use|film-screenshot}} form that the WGEP uses. Though, I have a feeling that that should actually be tv-screenshot not film-screenshot. Don't bother placing those TalkHeaders on talkpages anymore. How about this, you replace your task of adding that template to the talkpages with converting the rationales. (If you want, I can clone Template:Fair use rationale here, and you can start to make the images use the format you see on images on the Animepedia such as Nanoha-original-dvd-vol2.jpg and Okusama wa Joshikousei-Poster.jpg. And I'll soon get a list of articles in the main namespace, and have a bot compare that to the list of talkpages and have it create a talkpage with header for each normal article missing a talkpage. Then I'll have it run through the talk namespace testing for talkpages missing that template and have it insert it at the top for those without it. If you're wondering why I found that that form of image summary page; When you upload an image, if you use the dropdown box a == Licensing == section is automatically created, and what text you entered is placed in a == Summary == section. So, to avoid forcing everyone to upload then edit, I use the rationale in the summary, and the fair use template is in the license section. I even do something like that if I half to manually type out the == Summary == and == Licensing == sections because of manually doing the template. Or as a way of also adding categories to the bottom. I'm working on a Licensebuilder tool, which lets you custom build a license template and either Assert it(Make it work as if it was part of the DropDown box), or Insert it(Place it into that summary box). It'll also insert the Image summary or Fair use rationale bases so that you can fill in the sections. It even sets up the default Summary/Licensing format in the box if you want it to because you're inserting instead of Asserting. ^_^ It works with dropdowns and forms so things like {{PD|user|Dantman|Anime}} can be customized and outputted. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 01:54 ^(UTC)

That... was a myriad of mind-boggling reading. I have no idea what you want me to do anymore (-_-) For the fair use rationale, I think you should use the one like I showed you on djinn Boo's top image. I think that that one is less complicated than the others, least that's what I think. All I am amply asking for is: are you able to have the bot do that task or is it impossible? I support whatever means need be for it to be possible; only if it is though. Burdock

It's not that different:

Description is just like part of the text at the top of that image "Screenshot of the mighty djinn Boo";
Source is the location of where it came from "Self-taken screenshot";
Portion of the work used isn't on that image you provided, but I usually make a statement that only a frame of the work is being used;
Purpose of Image is why the image has been uploaded, in this case it would be "For use in documenting the character Djinn Boo.";
Resolution reduced? or Resolution is the size of the image in comparison to the original, on your page that would be 2 "It is of much lower resolution than the original (copies made from it will be of very inferior quality).";
Replaceable? states if a free image can be made to replace it, in this case I always throw in the statement "A free image cannot be created to replace an official image." because you can't make a free version of a copyrighted image of a official character;
And Other information is just like your statement of "It does not limit the copyright owner's rights to market or sell the work in any way." and "This image is used on various websites, so its use here does not make it significantly more accessible or visible than it already is.".

The only difference is points 1 and 5 are pointless because the Fair use template already covers those things, and my template clearly lays out the sections. Actually, that template is based on the rationale that Wikipedia uses. Which is why it covers all the important information.

You can see another example at w:c:megaman:Image:DarkChip-AX-27-Netto.png. The fair use template is a bit screwed up, but it shows good documentation of Description, Source, Portion, Purpose, and Replaceability.

p.s: The templates are all messed up to... things like Wikipedia and Wikimedia Foundation haven't been edited to fit properly. But one of the reasons I've waited off on things, is because the templates in the WGEP have already been customized to properly work on Wikia.

An issue with tagging images as fair use later, is the fact that to claim it properly, you need a source location. If you didn't take the screenshot yourself, you'd half to provide the url of the image you copied and uploaded. The issue with that is when users don't upload the url of their source. One of the reasons many Wikipedia images are probably deleted, we could at least make a rationale with it. But without it, rationales can't properly be made.

But simply ended, that kind of task requires a human to validate the information for each image and come up with the description, source, and fair use claims manually, so a bot can't do that task. However, if you wanted something like Majin Buu replaced with Djinn Boo globally that would be possible, though you'd half to be careful of the documentation of alternate forms being erased. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 04:37 ^(UTC)

Honestly, and I mean no offense, but do people actually know what you're talking about half the time? Maybe you should speak in Layman's terms from now on Dantman. Reason being, I have a very hard time trying to understand the things you're trying to say. I think I get what you meant though; a human has to manually place the fair use rationale (like the one on djinn Boo's top image) on each of the images it seems. I really find the one on Boo's top image much more prettier than those "ugly" ones you mentioned and showed me. Tell you what: since I have free time on my hands today (and tomorrow) I'll personally place that Boo example on ALL of the images (that are reliable to use on articles) by myself; if you wanna give me a helping hand that'd be great. But I'll wait for your opinion on this before doing so. Please remember to respond back to me in a less complicated manner so I don't have to be so dazed (-_-) Burdock, the Saiyan

Something else I've wanted to mention earlier, when and how will WGEP join us? Is there a poll or something related to this going on here? Burdock

Well, it's the other way around. But I need community feedback before I can go and start running the bots and stuff to standardize things. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 18:05 ^(UTC)

I see. Where do I sign up to support it? Burdock

Forum:Joining the WGEP as it's always been. I believe you even made a note about it. Though I can't do to much at the moment because I'm currently talking with Johnq(John Q. Smith; Head of the Wikia Technical Team) about theories for creating Wikia which have sub wiki or wiki which are merged together into one database and file structure, but still work like separate wiki but can have shared content and move pages cross-wiki using the normal Movepages special page. I'm also doing some coding work testing the theories out to. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 23:55 ^(UTC)

Re: Vandal

The note on other vandalism by Prince Zarbon was not about the comments used in the edit summary, but about 5 other articles he created. The reason you can't see them is because I deleted the pages, you can see the names and a short summary of one in the deletion log, when I revert a vandal, check the recent changes to see what's been done, commonly there will be a section of pages which were also deleted during that time. ~Dantman^(talk) May 10, 2007 _@ 00:25 ^(UTC)

That was just... terrible. I honestly didn't know Prince Zarbon did that much. And here I was thinking that you were being a little tough on the new user. I'm sorry for the misunderstandings. And here I was attempting a warm welcome for Zarbon. Hopefully, the user redeems himself. Again, I didn't know he did that much and I apologize for it. Regards - Burdock

<Comment by vandal removed: Review the history if you wish to see it...> ~Dantman^(talk) May 11, 2007 _@ 17:11 ^(UTC)

Oy, we got a problem - in the midst of Zarbon's "vandal spree" I noticed that there are two Goten articles: Goten and Son Goten. I can't do anything to merge, much less history merge, the two articles together because it won't let me. Perhaps you can? Burdock, the father of Goku

Ban == Block. Ban is just a word used for block in other places such as forums. Both bans and blocks have duration defined by the type. Bans on forums usually are setup to use things like 1 week, 2 week, etc.. And possibly permaban. But the blocking system in MediaWiki is a little different. Firstly, I can custmize the exact duration of the block. There is a preset box containing lengths such as 1 day, 3 day, 1 week, 2 week, 1 year, 2 year, infinite, etc... And if I don't like any of those lengths I can set a precise time and day for a block to expire. Just for your information, I used infinite as the duration for that block on Prince Zarbon so it will never expire. Furthermore, there are a few things that I was able to do that forum bans usually can't do. Firstly, the system kept track of the last IP address he used, because I checked of a certain checkbox not only has Prince Zarbon been blocked, but the last IP address has also been blocked even though I do not know what it is. An another thing that was checked off was Account creation prevention. So that IP address he used can no longer create user accounts (Sockpuppets) for him to come back with. And just for another little kick... I requested a CheckUser by one of the staff so it's possible that any Sockpuppets he currently has will also be blocked, and I also requested a Global on him... So hopfully his account will also be blocked on every other Wikia wiki meaning he cannot do any cross-wiki vandalism with that account.

Ok, I see that... Son Goten is very small... But Son Goten is the correct name right? Full names are preffered as the manual of style states. So I'll merge the two histories to Son Goten and the most recent revision from Goten will become the active revision. ~Dantman^(talk) May 11, 2007 _@ 19:20 ^(UTC)

Interesting. So banning isn't much different from blocking; I should have known just by seeing the word "infinite" on the block log. On most forums that I once was a member of, I learned that: blocks were limited, bans were unlimited. But I guess it is different for wiki programs. For Wikipedia, I didn't even know what "sockpuppetry" (their policy of it) was until I read about it on WP:SOCK. Wait, has Zarbon been vandalizing the other wikis as well and leaving those "disgusting" edit summaries too? They should really change the edit summuries to censor that kind of crap. Also, what is CheckUser? Is there one on Wikipedia too? It sounds like its a locator for users. Burdock

CheckUser is a special extension. It's Staff only use because of privacy issues. The CheckUser extension keeps a log of all the IP addresses used by a Username on any wiki, and also a log of what Usernames were logged into by an IP address. Basically by making a query, the Staff can track down most of the other accounts and IP's that the user has used or may use to vandalize. It can be used to track down new sockpuppets, ban additional IP's so that they can't vandalize under a new IP, and even compare two accounts logs to check if they are probably the same person. Edit summaries can't be changed without directly altering the database tables, the best thing that can be done is a deletion of the page revision, but to do that would require the page to be deleted, then the other revisions to be deleted, but that is a bit to complex to do. As such it's not done. Though I will consider it if sometime a single revision split or delete is created. ~Dantman^(talk) May 11, 2007 _@ 23:17 ^(UTC)

Sannse tells me that the IP is a bit unusual, and that another user did use that IP some time ago. Currently the impression is that it is a Coincidence, but she's checking it with Splarka. If Prince Zarbon ever does come back, even if he does vandalize anything he'll actually be giving the staff even more data that they can use to single out what accounts he uses. Also, Sannse will be watching for any vandalism from him elsewhere (Staff can check contribs on all Wikia wiki) and if he does do any cross-wiki vandalism they can do a wikia-wide block on him. ~Dantman^(talk) May 12, 2007 _@ 12:40 ^(UTC)

Sparkla? Wait, is it possible that it's one of the users on this Dragon Ball wikia? Can you find that out? That'd be great. I think this CHECKUSER was what I've been needing - User:Recoome apparently retired on Wikipedia without saying bye and I wanted to give him a thanks and farewell. Shucks. Oh, I discovered CHECKUSER on Wikipedia. Its basically the same program the wikia utilises, is it not? Burdock

One other thing, I asked you about how to remove those disturbing edit summaries, such as: Goten moved to Sweet (I won't say that word!), etc. I'm sorry, but I'm just bothered to death by those gross summaries. What can you again do to completely rewrite them? Burdock

You can't rewrite them. The software won't allow that. The best you can do is to delete those revisions, but even if you do that the deleted pages will still list the edit summary for admins. The only way to make it non-readable by admins would be to ask staff to Oversight it, but that's an extreme case tool and it would never be used for that purpose. Splarka and Sannse are 2 members of the Community Staff. I was not given the information on what user it is. It is highly possible that it was a coincidence that the two users had the same IP (There are numerous reasons that can happen) and so the Staff does not want to single them out. If anything happens or they confirm anything they'll tell me. CheckUser is only used for tracking down sockpuppets and vandals. Using it for something else would break Wikia's Privacy Policy. That's why it's a Staff Only tool. ~Dantman^(talk) May 13, 2007 _@ 07:32 ^(UTC)

Hey there Dantman. I just realized that Pu'ar needs a history merge with Pu-erh. See, when I created Pu-erh I didn't notice the Pu'ar article 'til later. Sorry 'bout that. Oh, I lefted a message for the recently active Recoome, since he seems to know the vandal here and on Wikipedia, to provide you with some information on Zarbon's whereabouts. Hope that helps! Burdock

Dantman, is there a problem with the InuYasha wiki? Most recently, I've created an account there, User:Sesshomaru, but everything is still messed up. The search box is busted, the account info. stays on the far left, can you do something to correct this? Burdock

That is a result of the MW 1.10a upgrade. Some wiki are a bit bugged like that. Even if I could fix various things by making messages I wouldn't because the devs are working on the bugs and a workaround isn't a proper solution. You know you don't need to register a new account, in fact you're recommended to use a single account. Useraccounts and preferences are shared globally. In the future you'll even be able to have Global user .js and .css which will affect all wiki, and also staff can lookup your contributions on multiple wiki at the same time. I'll do the page merge. ~Dantman^(talk) May 18, 2007 _@ 03:25 ^(UTC)